Welcome to the opening of our very first Vamp Week here at Brief Encounters! As a special treat, we’re kicking off the week with a two-part interview with Jordan Castillo Price, author of the much beloved series Psycop and Channeling Morpheus (which we’ll be reviewing here all this week). The first part of the Channeling Morpheus series has been re-released from Jordan’s own e-publisher, JCP Books, with the second part soon to follow (being re-released as Channeling Morpheus 6-10). In addition, Jordan has graciously offered to give away a bundle of all five stories we’ll be reviewing this week, to a lucky commenter on either day of the post (**more details below). It’s a fascinating conversation, so we hope you’ll enjoy!
Note: Questions by Cole in Blue, and questions by Ruby in Green.
Hi Jordan! Ruby and I are both very excited to review one of our favorite series this week, Channeling Morpheus, and revisit two of our favorite characters! You’ve been interviewed here in the past, so we thought we’d dig a little deeper this time and hopefully encourage anyone who hasn’t read this series to pick it up. Can you start off by giving us a few sentences about both of your characters, Michael and Wild Bill?
Hi Cole! Hi Ruby! I was so excited that you wanted to explore Channeling Morpheus in depth. I feel like it’s more than a vampire series—it’s an elaborate character study. Hopefully there are a few readers out there who are oversaturated with the same old vampire books will have their interest piqued and give it a try.
Michael Davies is a vampire hunter who is determined, painfully smart, and also painfully naive. He’s determined that if the authorities aren’t going to do anything about vampires, then he needs to locate the worst ones and start cleaning things up. Oh, and really it’s probably more about revenge.
Wild Bill would have been happy to coast through life rebuffing anyone who might begin to care about him with a smartass veneer, but he was in the right place at the right time when Michael was poised to make his first kill…and the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
With each new story the point of view switches from one character to the other. Whose POV felt most natural to you to write?
I would say neither one is natural, because I think if I ever wrote someone who felt natural I’d be writing as “me,” (especially in first person writing) and that’s something I want to avoid. I think writing in first person feels a bit like channeling. (Which isn’t the origin of the series title…there just really isn’t another word for it.) With Michael, he feels like me as I’m writing him, though maybe more black-and-white, right-and-wrong opinionated. But his vocabulary is a lot like mine. I don’t dumb him down, even though he’s so young. He’s very booksmart, unlike some of my other characters like Victor Bayne (Psycop), where I need to be careful about what he knows and what he probably wouldn’t know, since Vic didn’t finish high school and isn’t really a scholarly guy.
Wild Bill has a poetic turn of phrase that’s all about getting into the mindset. He’s based on a guy I dated who did talk like that, and often leave me scratching my head as to what he was really saying because his real-life non sequiturs probably had more tangential relationships to the concept he was trying to convey than the literary Wild Bill.
Wild Bill strikes me as just about the most pacifist vampire I’ve ever met, but he disguises it beautifully. What were the challenges involved in writing such a contradictory character?
He strikes me as more of a “regular guy” than a pacifist. In fiction I notice many stories are very “big” in a way that doesn’t work for me. (This is a new idea that’s just taken form in me over the past few weeks, so bear with me.) Squabbles become wars—and the wars don’t just kill people, they destroy the planet and all life in the universe. Characters aren’t just comfortable, they’re billionaires with nightclubs and yachts. The antagonist isn’t a guy with a chip on his shoulder, he’s the devil. For me, I think that “big” themes begin to lose me because characters engaging with those themes feel less and less like someone I can relate to. It feels fake. It feels contrived.
So with Bill’s character, it’s more like I try to imagine how a regular guy would react to having to kill someone, or seeing someone murdered. His guilt really drives him, and he’s haunted by all the death and trying to figure out the meaning of life, and being stuck between a rock and a hard place. He can’t walk away but it’s hell to stay.
Approaching Wild Bill as a “regular guy,” then, I think if a regular guy met up with a vampire (and knew it was a fact the vampire was a killer and needed to be stopped) he wouldn’t think, “Okay, I’ll kill him (or let my boyfriend do it.)” He’d probably call the cops!
I, of course, love the books from Wild Bill’s POV because he has such a unique and funny take on the world around him. But for some reason Michael’s stories tend to stick with me and I sometimes resent that Wild Bill gets all the attention
(Hey, I can’t help it — he just has the punk attitude that makes me weak at the knees!) Did you ever feel like you played favorites while writing the series? How do you feel about them now?
I’m glad you asked this because I’ve had some feedback that Michael isn’t particularly beloved among readers, and I wonder sometimes if they realize he’s critical to the story. Michael is the catalyst. He’s not there to be agreeable or likeable. He’s there to move the story forward. If Wild Bill met up with a mirror image of himself, it would be just a couple of guys trying to out-smartass each other and then wandering away in disgust. Michael is the momentum and the fuel and the freshness that makes things happen. He’s very intense and very single-minded, and he’s damn near unstoppable.
I think because Michael and Wild Bill are so different, the stories that happen around each of their points of view are also different. I don’t have a favorite, though. I really do love them both. I wonder if Michael’s stories feel more intense because he allows himself to feel things more intensely, and that carries through in the writing.
It also strikes me as odd that some of the readers who’ve given me feedback strongly prefer reading a Wild Bill-narrated story to a Michael-narrated story. It’s the opposite of what I would expect. I would think reading from Michael’s POV would be preferable (if you’re a Bill fan) because then you get to vicariously have Bill lavishing his attentions on you.
In all, though, I think the fact that readers do tend to have a favorite means I’ve done something really right, and my characters don’t all sound and feel the same. That’s a huge accomplishment, in my eyes.
Given that you could have set your series wherever you wanted, what made you choose the Mid-West as opposed to classic literary vampire territory like New Orleans or Paris?
Two main reasons. One, New Orleans and Paris have been done (over and over) and I wanted to do something new. Two, I haven’t been to New Orleans or Paris, but I have been to Terre Haute and Detroit and Milwaukee and Rockford and Dubuque. Setting Channeling Morpheus in midwestern cities that aren’t particularly glamorous is what differentiates it from all the derivative stuff set in New Orleans. Anchoring the story in places that feel real makes the fantasy elements of the worldbuilding pop.
The sex in these stories is smoking hot (Hell yes it is!), yet the surroundings are always so dirty and uncomfortable. Do you think these two things are connected? Can you ever see Wild Bill and Michael living the life of luxury?
I’ve never thought about the setting impacting the sex, but since the sex is integral to the story and the story is affected by the setting, I suppose it would have to! It’s possible that the grungy settings provide a contrast that makes the sex more vivid, in the way that the mundaneness of the locales makes the supernatural elements more striking. I feel resistant to the thought of Wild Bill and Michael amid luxury. I don’t think they’d fit, somehow. They’d start feeling contrived.
In my opinion, the success of this series, and one of the reasons I love it, is that the focus of the story is really on the characters, rather than vampire mythology like most other vampire stories. Was this a conscious decision? If so, why?
I do go into the physiological changes, the strengths and weaknesses, the social structure (or lack of it,) but I do it via scenes rather than exposition. That’s a conscious choice for sure. I get really turned off by stories that rush to tell me “here are the storyverse rules” in a big expository dump on page two. That’s like driving to a concert to see my favorite band, being handed a set list, and told to go sit in my car and imagine it. I want to see the ramifications of a story unfold via action or dialog or character. Not be told a list of rules. So I guess I’m trying to say that I’m conscious of the focus of everything I write never being on the mythology, but rather the way the characters interact with that mythology/worldbuilding.
The vampire mythology in Channeling Morpheus is different than in your other vampire novel, Hemovore. Which did you find the most interesting to write, and why?
They were written a few years apart, and I think that difference is probably the bigger difference than the worldbuilding being bigger in Hemovore. I suppose they were both interesting to write, but Hemovore was a bigger learning curve for me. That was when I discovered that exposition, even delivered in a really clever voice, was still just exposition. I think writers fool themselves by thinking they can get away with being expository if they have a clever way with words, and I think they’re wrong. I was just learning that with Hemovore, whereas by the time I started Channeling Morpheus I was practiced enough annihilating exposition that I could think of other things, like how to convey subtext and characterization via sex scenes.
There is one last question about the series that Ruby and I both have. Do you agree with Wild Bill that Michael is a serial killer? How do you feel about the moral implications of making a killer so sympathetic to the reader?
Great question! I don’t agree with Wild Bill at all, I think Michael is a vigilante. But it makes sense for Wild Bill to feel that way since he’s considered himself a victim (of Ambrose Gray, of circumstance) for as long as Michael has been alive, or maybe even as long as he himself has been alive. So Michael’s crusade against vampires makes him feel pretty defensive. Understandably so, I think. I’d be surprised if there were any moral implications. “One man takes a stand against evil…with a great big gun” is a pretty typical theme in writing and film.
That’s it for Part One of our interview! Check in tomorrow for the second half, where we ask Jordan some fun questions
**Leave a comment in the post for a chance to win an electronic bundle of stories 1-5 of Channeling Morpheus (the 2nd Edition). Comments on both parts of the interview will be considered one entry. Contest is open until Friday, January 20th at 11:59 CST. Drawing will be at random and winner listed at the bottom of comments, so remember to check back or click to get updates emailed to you when you post your comment! Winner will then be put in contact with Jordan to determine the format.
Links:
JCP Books
Jordan’s Website
Official Channeling Morpheus Site
Looking forward to part two. Jordan’s PsyCop series was my first foray into the m/m genre and the quality of her writing and the wonderful stories she told got me hooked.
It’s funny how long my older series have been around, isn’t it? I was just now remembering a time before m/m was a genre and I couldn’t get my gay stories published to save my life. (And my first ebook came out on DISC, haha!!!) Thank you for sticking with me!
Great interview guys. Can’t wait for tomorrow. I certainly can’t see Wild Bill and Michael living in a fancy condo and driving a Mercedes. Just doesn’t fit. LOL And some of the places for sex are definitely less than … pristine, but maybe that’s why it’s so hot, you don’t even care about how grungy it is, you just WANT IT NOW!
Wild Bill would definitely be sneering all the while if he was in a fancy place. He’d probably leave a trail of cigarette burns behind just out of contempt. I think Michael would be more comfortable with wealth. His family was more upper middle class, and Bill’s was more lower-working class.
I loved this interview! I agree completely that setting you know and that setting less “done” definitely make the characters more authentic and the world building popl.
Thanks, Regina! The midwest seems to be an honorary character in this series.
Great interview! I love this series, it really is a fresh take on vampires.
I’m glad you think so! Even as it goes into its second editions I still feel like it’s fresh, too. I’m happy about that! (Maybe grateful or pleased is a better word…anyway, it’s good! I hate looking back at a story and cringing.)
That was a fascinating look into the characters and how the author perceives his creations. I look forward to more of this interview. And please enter me into the contest. Great job.
I’m glad you enjoyed it, Melanie! Good luck!
I liked both Michael and Wild Bill’s viewpoints, but when Bill narrates, you get so much more about him than Michael understands from his cryptic comments. Michael seems to get flashes here and there, and as he gets to know Bill he can puzzle some things out, but I really enjoy knowing for sure where Bill is coming from. Bill’s a much kinder person on the inside than he lets show.
I love this explanation, Em, I think this is the first time the strong reader-preference for Wild Bill’s POV makes any sense to me! It still feels successful to me, as well, because it shows I was able to compartmentalize what Michael knows/thinks and what Wild Bill knows/thinks successfully. YAY
How have I not read these books? A great interview that gives such insight into the characters. One way or another, I will have these books eventually!
Oh…and please enter me into the contest!
I hope you give ‘em a whirl, Maya!
Great interview! I am definitely intrigued! Please count me in for the giveaway.
Intrigued is good
Really great interview questions, esp. that one about Michael as serial killer! I’ve enjoyed these books very much (in fact, don’t enter me in the drawing because I have them all).
I appreciate the insight here about the “big” themes: Characters aren’t just comfortable, they’re billionaires with nightclubs and yachts. That just crystallized for me why so many stories, like the new one by Dean Koontz The Moonlit Mind, start to bore me to the point where I put them down. I hadn’t been sure why, but I just knew they seemed to lose focus and go flat for me.
The last Koontz I read was Odd Thomas, and I seem to remember him being something low-rent like a clerk and living above a garage (maybe I am making this all up), and I really LOVED that about it.
I really dislike over-the-top reality, like the billionaire type. And especially the nightclub owner type. My friends who owned a club were always mopping up puke…that, I’d read.
Thank you so much for answering all our questions, Jordan – you’ve definitely given me some new insight into your thought processes when writing these stories.
And I completely agree about the way you let the worldbuilding happen organically in these titles, as opposed to the telling in Hemovore. I suspect that’s why they pulled me in so much faster and live on more vividly in my memory.
I scraped all the telling out of Hemovore, actually. It was a laborious process though. By the time I got to Channeling Morpheus it felt more instinctive to me from all the practice I’d had.
I just figured out where I’d written about the process of removing exposition at length (it’s been nagging at me!) and I figured I’d post a link since lots of writers hang out here:
http://jordancastilloprice.com/hemovore-writing.html
Hi Jordan! I really, really like your take on exposition or the lack thereof. Infodumping just doesn’t work – it’s so distancing. And your comments gave me a bit more insight into why so many of your stories work for me – they’re involving in a way that many authors don’t achieve.
I’m really glad, Chris. I’ve read several self-published (non m/m) stories lately that begin entirely in exposition. I always thought it was an obvious no-no but I see so much of it, I guess not. Many of these authors are the new hot self-pub success stories too, so I guess their readers don’t care. But I move along when I see a big exposition blob.
Great interview. I love the PsyCop series and just haven’t gotten to these yet, but this makes me need to move them up the TBR pile!
Yay, Sadonna, they read fast, I say move ‘em up!
Oh, I definitely have to read these stories now. I’m intrigued by the whole serial killer vs. Vigilante thing. Great interview!
I hope you give it a spin, Laddie! The first chapter of Payback is here in case anyone wants to give it a try to see if they like it:
http://channelingmorpheus.com/payback.html
Awesome interview. JCP like Josh Lanyon just have amazing skill with the short story. It’s interesting to hear Jordan’s thoughtd on what both Michael and Wild Bill are to the story. These boys are two of my all time favorites. Looking forward to next part.
Thank you, I’m glad you think so! I do enjoy working in both shorter forms and long novels. They each present a different set of challenges.
Wow, great interview Cole and Ruby. My interest was peaked enough to buy the first two in the series several months ago, but I haven’t gotten to them yet, shame on me.
I will now though, sounds really good. So glad to have more JCP to read while waiting for PSY Cop.
PsyCop needs time to brew so it doesn’t go anywhere too obvious – so do check out Channeling Morpheus and see what you think
I tried to read this series slowly to savor it, but it was over too soon! Wild Bill made my top 5 vampires poll. I hope we’ll hear from him again!
Thank you L-D! I think there is a story in the back of my brain about Michael and Bill in Las Vegas but I’m going to work on some PsyCop this year and let that percolate.
I am such a huge JCP fan! Thanks for more insight into Wild Bill and Michael (who is a vigilante!) hurray!
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Wow some really great indepth questions about Michael and Bill here and some fascinating answers! Thanks to Jordan for giving us some insight into how these characters tick.
I’m in the Wild Bill camp, but I find Michael a compelling character too.
What a great interview!! I love how in depth the characters are. I feel like I know each of them when finished reading a JCP book.
Wonderful interview! I appreciate the difference between learning the rules by the scenes and the “expository dump on page two”. Now I HAVE to read these!
I love Jordan’s PsyCop series and would love to win this series
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What a great interview,,Love the PsyCop books so I would like to win this other series to give it a try…Thanks!
Great post! I’m working my way thru the PsyCop series right now and loving it!! Can’t wait to get started on the Channeling series
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I’m new to Jordan’s writing but I can’t wait to get started reading them…thanks for this interview guys!!!
I keep hearing good things about this series, I may have to try them since PsyCop is my all time favourite m/m series and Petit Mort is up near the top as well
Thanks to everyone for commenting and joining in the interview and the drawing. The winner of the bundle of Channeling Morpheus 1-5 is Melora! Congrats on your win Melora! I’ve sent you an email so you can get in contact with Jordan and get your books
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Really great questions, guys. Thanks for the wonderful interview.
Congrats to Melora.
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